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Draw a square; in the centre of it, draw a circle. In the largest remaining area of the square, draw a circle. Carry on until you run out of pixels; in the posted image I ran out of pixels fairly early, in the thing I've linked to you'll find the first 128 layers but you'll be able to see the smaller ones only if you've got an SVG editing application. Be warned that rendering images this complex makes Firefox rather lethargic, and may require a plug-in on lesser browsers; don't worry, it hasn't crashed.

If you set up the problem in a computer-algebra package, you find that the centres and radii of the circles, which are defined by sets of three simultaneous quadratic equations and so you might expect to live in an ever-deepening hierarchy of extension fields, are in fact all defined over Q(√ 2); the denominators don't even get too hairy, the largest in the first 128 layers is 257762.

If you don't have magma, you might want to see the log of the run; the layout of the log is obvious from the source code. I know the code's deeply inefficient, I'll need to improve that if I want to go more than a thousand iterations deep, but I don't know of languages which have both a decent Gröbner-basis library and reasonable handling of linked lists and priority queues. Writing priority queues in Magma is probably less painful than writing Gröbner-basis code in C++, but neither's very appealing at 1am, nor my first choice of entertainment at more reasonable hours.

If anyone's got the facility to print images onto large-poster-sized paper in a way in which millimetre-high letters are readable, I'd be interested to see what the highest-depth version I can generate looks like as a physical object; had I rather more energy than I think I do, I'd at least write a Java applet where you could zoom in and pan around ten thousand layers deep.

Date: 2006-11-28 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aardvark179.livejournal.com
I think that should work, if I can plot it then it will be via illustrator and PDF. You should know that plotters these days really are just inkjets on steroids.

Heck, if you can't get it to work I'll write a script in NodeBox to do it—procedural graphic design in Python is great.

Date: 2006-11-28 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fivemack.livejournal.com
I know plotters are inkjets on steroids, but I'm a bit unsure what the capabilities of current inkjets are: 1200dpi = 47dpmm suggests that lines of 0.1mm in thickness (SVG does handle real-life units, doesn't it?) should come out OK, which would be quite impressive over, umm, if I'm targetting A0 I suppose I should render to an 800mm square.

Date: 2006-11-28 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aardvark179.livejournal.com
They'll go pretty fine, though it depends on altitude and paper stock. I'd say 1mm high letters are unlikely to be very legible, but give it a shot anyway, I can try test printing a portion and then consider discarding text and cicrles below a certain size.

A0 versions with nice thinness

Date: 2006-11-29 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fivemack.livejournal.com
OK,

http://www.globalphasing.com/~twomack/holy.svg

is the cyan plate with holes in with 1mm borders around them

http://www.globalphasing.com/~twomack/unholy.svg

is the data with 0.1mm borders and holes down to 0.2mm diameter

(both with the image 800mm across for A0 printing)

and http://www.globalphasing.com/~twomack/bigset.cpp has the data embedded in it if you want to process more

Re: A0 versions with nice thinness

Date: 2006-11-29 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aardvark179.livejournal.com
Those three URLs have one thing in common, I'll give you a clue. It starts with a 4 and ends with a 4.

Re: A0 versions with nice thinness

Date: 2006-11-29 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fivemack.livejournal.com
Uploaded files for web pages should go in www:public_html/

Uploaded files for web pages should go in www:public_html/

Uploaded files for web pages should go in www:public_html/

Uploaded files for web pages should go in www:public_html/

Uploaded files for web pages should go in www:public_html/

I've moved them there now. 404-less.

Re: A0 versions with nice thinness

Date: 2006-11-29 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aardvark179.livejournal.com
:-)

I'll whack those through illustrator tonight and layout a coupe of test plots to see what works best when printed.

Re: A0 versions with nice thinness

Date: 2006-12-04 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aardvark179.livejournal.com
Right I've got a nice printout of unholy if you're going to be around on Thursday, and the text is readable down to a remarkably small size. It's not perfectly central as it was printted on a 3 foot roll, but I'm sure you won't mind.

I could do even bigger, as we have a five foot wide roll on one of the plotters, but that start to become difficult to transport.

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