Date: 2009-05-11 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monkeyhands.livejournal.com
I think my attitude is: if you're flying, why would you feel guilty about money?

So if your trip to Toronto really is important enough to justify flying, make the most of it and spend as long as you can there because you've just used up several years' worth of what your carbon allowance would be if we lived in a fair world.

As for the questions about convenience, e.g. the expensive fast train over the cheap slow one, time is money! If you're important enough to be sent places, you're probably paid enough for your workplace to see your time as a significant resource. Or you're an academic.

Date: 2009-05-11 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemiancoast.livejournal.com
I think this is right too. First, make sure that you really, really need to be there in person.

Date: 2009-05-11 06:25 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-05-11 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
time is money

True, but if it's a business trip and they're only willing to pay for a slow cheap train rather than an expensive fast one, then so long as it's on work time I'm basically getting paid to sit and read... :-)

On the question of needing to be there, it's funny how work will always find money to burn for flights to conferences but can somehow only afford one conference phone which doesn't work properly. It's almost as if it's nothing to do with communication and all to do with making stupid people feel Very Important.

Date: 2009-05-11 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jvvw.livejournal.com
I have a feeling this may be a research council thing - with the research councils not paying for IT equipment they think the university should be supplying as a matter of course. I know budget for equipment in bids is scrutinised much more than that for conferences. It's very frustrating.

Date: 2009-05-12 08:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monkeyhands.livejournal.com
Actually, I have no idea why I of all people came up with the "time is money" argument. My behaviour as a freelancer makes it pretty clear that in practice I don't put much value on my time at all. Once I took a four-day job in Buckinghamshire where the daily bus and coach fares cost me half a day's pay every day, and the journey was several hours long there and back. On my last day I got sent home early, so not only did I not get paid for the afternoon but I had to wait two hours for the coach. The journey home that day was five hours door to door.

I think it's because I've always had the attitude "WORK! TAKE WORK! DO WORK! Don't worry about anything except GETTING WORK because it could all dry up tomorrow and then you'll be all bitter and unemployed!" Which turned out to be completely true, actually.

But yeah. You're right that business people often think they're making rational economic decisions when actually they're just feeding egos or fitting in with the dominant culture. Most businesses will invest in some kind of conference calling equipment because they think they need to have it, but then will never use it because it isn't good enough.

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